An Chomhdháil Phobail | The People’s Convention

Your assistance is needed in getting a new initiative off the ground.

We are pleased to pass on the following information:

The new An Chomhdháil Phobail / The Peoples Convention (CPPC) will be announced on Saturday 27th November next – the ICTU demonstration in Dublin will be used to leaflet the public, a web site will go online later this week etc.

CPPC is the initiative of some people coming together (under the name “Citizens Initiative”) on the question of democratic renewal in Ireland; with a plan to empower people in controlling our own democratic processes and systems. CPPC is the result of discussions that have taken place across many different organisations and with many individuals over the last 18 months.

The CPPC plans are unique and provide the means for uniting everyone, regardless of political party loyalties, economic outlook etc. – uniting on the simple principle that ordinary people should be the decision makers in our society.

CPPC is for everyone, all citizens are encouraged to work for its achievement, through their own organisations/parties, directly with CPPC, with Citizens Initiative, with thefuture Initiative or with any other organisation that supports it.

If you would like to assist with or join in with this work I would like to be in contact with you, please message me directly here or on Facebook. We are excited by this development and believe it holds the key for unlocking the political stalemate that has existed in this country for many many years.

Best wishes,

Diarmaid

 

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Declan Waugh
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Diarmuid, im interested in what your initatitive is attempting to undertake. We need democratic political renewal in this country, we need to build social capital in this country, we need a new vision and model of political service

Editor
Guest

Declan,

Many thanks for your interest.

There will be a leaflet published later today on the Citizens’s Initiative website, the site is still under construction, as is the site for CPPC itself. All of these will be working by Thursday.

If you are in Dublin next Saturday your assistance would be more than welcome.

As soon as anything else becomes available and other arrangements are known I will be posting updates through this website.

Best wishes,

Diarmaid

Declan Waugh
Guest

Diarmuid, are you aware of any travel arrangements between cork and dublin, ie. buses for the event?

Editor
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I think special buses are arranged from Cork and ICTU have some deal going if you book the train online. I did see some references to this but can’t find them just now to say for sure. The route is http://www.ictu.ie/november27/routemap.html I will be in contact before end of week, I may be driving from Cork myself early on Saturday morning – in which case you’d be welcome to a lift. Whether you can travel or not it would be good to meet … we need to start the process of building Conventions everywhere. I will send you a direct… Read more »
Fergal
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You cannot have democracy within the framework of the capitalist system. You can try, and cry the word “Democracy! Democracy!” from the rooftops, but as long as there is class divisions, and the capitalist class continues to exist, you will change nothing whatsoever. Regardless of how grassroots or proletarian your party starts out, it will always answer to the bourgeoisie in the end, as it is not radical or revolutionary in nature. Change comes through class struggle, and your party is not based around class struggle, rather, the golden calf of democracy, which you will never aquire within the capitalist… Read more »
Editor
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Thanks Ferga for your comment. Firstly, for clarity, CPPC is not belong to or part of ‘thefuture Initiative’, it has its own origin and existence. However, but we do fully support CPPC, because it seeks to put the people in power, to make the people the decision makers in our society. We advocate supporting CPPC in the context where the people have absolutely no say in how our country is run, and parties serving vested interests control everything. CPPC is for democracy, it may not include everything that you, we or anyone else wants to see, but if the people… Read more »
Fergal
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But how do you intend to do this? In words, but not in theory or practice, our current system is “democratic”. Fianna Fail says that it is a democratic party, despite this being untrue. What makes the CPPC different? As well as that, how do you expect to elect people to the position of TD without making them part of the political class? Because of the capital they control, and their power, the government official is of a completely different class compared to the people. As such he has different class interests, and cannot represent the interests of the people.… Read more »
Editor
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Yes, the current process is “democratic” in name, even the USA is led by a “Democratic” Party, but as you say words or rights without practice or vital measures to enable them are worthless. I’m sure you will agree that there is little democracy in the way our state is currently administrated and that the Irish people as a whole are not the ones making the decisions. CPPC is different because we have proposed the actual means by which the people may be empowered – not many careerists politicians would accept our undertakings on Selection, Election, Consultation, Mandate and Recall.… Read more »
Chris
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I agree in theory with much of what is contained in the manifesto of CPPC, but isn’t it all so similar to the communist manifesto and look where that led. The workers’ soviets of the Russian revolution were also peoples’ conventions which selected representatives for the supreme soviet. Once in power isn’t it human nature to rationalise for oneself the need to stay there? How can CPPC be any different?

Editor
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Thanks Chris, I think the Communist Manifesto says a lot more than CPPC has any interest in; that manifesto advances a complete historical analysis of human society and the necessity for revolutionary change. The Soviets in the USSR were part of that historical process; they did make advances but as you point out they failed or were defeated along the way. I don’t believe that the reasons for the failure of the Soviets are yet written, maybe they were defeated by the more powerful enemy or maybe, after a time, their internal organisation didn’t live up to its task etc.… Read more »
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